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Post by BIGBADWOLFY on Mar 15, 2006 14:11:27 GMT -5
thats a real shame dave you wont be able to "play with" stevoe
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Post by Mark2422 on Mar 15, 2006 17:38:57 GMT -5
Yeah got my own guild im leader with a few others A break already seems odd considering its only been out 8 days lol yeah but been playin mmo's since i took my brake from xbox live back in december and since mir 3 went bust which is where i spent most of my time away i just car nt be bothered with it all right now. ive helped get my clan established and my char started so i can now leave the clan in the capable hands of the council and take my long earned brake. i should be back on ddo once plans for pvp are comfirmed or at least been considered. you may as well talk to my partner in crime "surhc" on ddo and see about formin a verbal alliance with us. theyd happily go on hunts with your guldies if you did.
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Post by M0thra on Mar 15, 2006 18:35:52 GMT -5
DDO will never, ever have PvP. Ever. It simply cannot work with the D&D system. PC classes are not in anyway balanced against each other, and Turbine have stated over and over again that it won't happen. So I wouldn't hold your breath
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Post by BIGBADWOLFY on Mar 16, 2006 1:18:37 GMT -5
DDO is OK and if you need a C>U>N>T> for your D&D games and a T>W>A>T. just give mark a ring
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Post by Mark2422 on Mar 16, 2006 2:32:58 GMT -5
DDO is OK and if you need a C>U>N>T> for your D&D games and a T>W>A>T. just give mark a ring I think the reason wolfy keeps postin in the pc thread is cus he is jelous and wants to be part of us "geeks" but doesnt like to admit it . how long is it gonna take for you to forgive me for leavin wolfy? what do i have to do to make up for it? And about the ddo pvp. ive spent hours arguin as to why ddo needs to get pvp added on the ddo forums and dont want to spend hours doing the same cus it just goes round in circles until the people who dont want pvp have no good argument as to why it shouldnt be added and just end up sayin "well turbine aint planin any pvp so there". that aint a reason as to why it shouldnt happen. all im goin to say is, for me once i hit max level and get realy good items thats it. if theres nothin else to do apart from the odd update with new quests every couple of months then it aint worth payin the subscrition fees every month. i carnt see how every one else wont do the same. why would anyone keep payin money every month for a game where there is little left to do on it. IMO people will get board of this game very quickly without some sort of player vs player and i carnt see how turbine is goin to just sit back and lets this happen. they are running a buisness tryin to make money at the end of the day. me personly only care about geting guild vs guild and having things like guild strongholds etc that other guilds can attack and viseversa.
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 4:09:21 GMT -5
Allo all. Been a while. Hope everyones ok. After a couple of long nights in a gaming cafe on BF2 on a shit hot PC i've taken the plunge. I've ordered the Fujitsu-Siemens Scaleo P - Media Center Desktop on this page and the 19inch widescreen TFT. www.club-it.com/kcc/pc_details.aspHopefully it should last 12 months before i need to upgrade. I'm looking to be online with it early May Regards, Dave What a fucking result!!!!!!! Dave when you get it download the Euro Army expansion. It came out 2 days ago and is 5.99. When you get online setup a Xfire so I can join you and get a headset/mic combo so we can chat. See you on the battlefield :-)
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 4:10:39 GMT -5
DDO is OK and if you need a C>U>N>T> for your D&D games and a T>W>A>T. just give mark a ring LMAO.
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 4:20:10 GMT -5
Oh and Dave. You might hate me for saying this but that GFX card aint gonna be too hot on BF2 etc. That would be something you would need to consider mate.
But hey, Your getting a PC so it's all good :-)
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Post by BIGBADWOLFY on Mar 16, 2006 5:09:27 GMT -5
your plan not to upgrade for a few months has gone out of the window only another £200 lol your forgiven mark and can anyone tell me WTF mark is banging on about ?? not got a clue
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Post by M0thra on Mar 16, 2006 6:56:01 GMT -5
DDO is OK and if you need a C>U>N>T> for your D&D games and a T>W>A>T. just give mark a ring And about the ddo pvp. ive spent hours arguin as to why ddo needs to get pvp added on the ddo forums and dont want to spend hours doing the same cus it just goes round in circles until the people who dont want pvp have no good argument as to why it shouldnt be added and just end up sayin "well turbine aint planin any pvp so there". that aint a reason as to why it shouldnt happen. all im goin to say is, for me once i hit max level and get realy good items thats it. if theres nothin else to do apart from the odd update with new quests every couple of months then it aint worth payin the subscrition fees every month. i carnt see how every one else wont do the same. why would anyone keep payin money every month for a game where there is little left to do on it. IMO people will get board of this game very quickly without some sort of player vs player and i carnt see how turbine is goin to just sit back and lets this happen. they are running a buisness tryin to make money at the end of the day. me personly only care about geting guild vs guild and having things like guild strongholds etc that other guilds can attack and viseversa. I think we're looking for different things in MMORPGS - If I want PVP , I'll play WoW. If I want a game where the focus is on adventuring in a party, well, that's what DDO is for. PVP and Guild compeition ruins games. It's absolutley ruined WoW for sure, given that the end game guilds have completely screwed the economy, with items costing 1000 times what they cost when I first played it. But the reason for no PvP is the because of the innate rules that D&D runs off. Yes, these have been bastardised a little, or a lot in some cases (sodding heroic durability for one. but that's another issue). D&D has always been a PvE game, has been for the 13+ years that I've been playing the PnP game, and for a long time before that. The balance just isn't there. No mage will ever survive a well built figher, who will be carrying items to reduce the damage that the one spell the mage gets off before said fighter kills him. Take, for example, a Level 10 fighter built along the lines of the Critical master - massive dex, Weapons finesse and a pair of Kurki's with improved crit - each weapon will critical on a 15 and one crit will likely take off 60% of a mages health. The fighter will also have a huge dodge save to help him avoid any magic nastiness. Sound balanced? It's not. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of things DDO needs. More quests for one, although I'm no where near seeing even most of them, given the time I'm putting in to the game (2 hours a day, maybe 4 times a week). Also the implementation of random dungeons and more raids would be nice, but come on, this is still less then a month since launch. In 6 months, given Turbines previous excellence at releasing regular content for earlier games, such as Asherons Call, which got new content every month), I expect the world to be much, much bigger and more challenging. For now, It's just nice to run around viewing things that I've previously just imagined when playing PnP.
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Post by M0thra on Mar 16, 2006 7:03:41 GMT -5
Oh and Dave. You might hate me for saying this but that GFX card aint gonna be too hot on BF2 etc. That would be something you would need to consider mate. But hey, Your getting a PC so it's all good :-) The X700 isn't *that* bad as built in cards go, It'll do OK for battlefield, but anything newer/more demanding will probably struggle. Oh, and Hicko, is Euro Army really worth getting?
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 7:04:47 GMT -5
Could somebody please translate the above what alex is on about?
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 7:07:55 GMT -5
Oh and Dave. You might hate me for saying this but that GFX card aint gonna be too hot on BF2 etc. That would be something you would need to consider mate. But hey, Your getting a PC so it's all good :-) The X700 isn't *that* bad as built in cards go, It'll do OK for battlefield, but anything newer/more demanding will probably struggle. Oh, and Hicko, is Euro Army really worth getting? It'll run Battlefield but everything will have to be on low settings though. Still look ok mind. Anyway Euro Army is quite good. It's only £5 so won't break the bank. The Euro Fighter is awesome and the Challenger 2 tank also. Plus you get new weapons and maps :-)
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Post by Original Mr C on Mar 16, 2006 7:18:43 GMT -5
Oh and Dave. You might hate me for saying this but that GFX card aint gonna be too hot on BF2 etc. That would be something you would need to consider mate. But hey, Your getting a PC so it's all good :-) Without starting the age old argument but that is the simple reason why I won't be getting involved with PC gaming. Too much fuckin hassle. I prefer buy game, put in machine, play game to Buy game, install game, download 50 million patches, try and optomise settings, realise your GFX card doesn't cut it any more, give up!
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Post by M0thra on Mar 16, 2006 7:39:59 GMT -5
It'll run Battlefield but everything will have to be on low settings though. Still look ok mind. Anyway Euro Army is quite good. It's only £5 so won't break the bank. The Euro Fighter is awesome and the Challenger 2 tank also. Plus you get new weapons and maps :-) Can you do me a huge favour, and email me the EA downloader app? For some reason, my PC seems to have taken it upon itself to bar me from the EA website (it has taste see? ). Address is alexkinnard[at]gmail.com You should just feel pleased that you don't understand it
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Post by Mark2422 on Mar 16, 2006 9:21:13 GMT -5
Oh and Dave. You might hate me for saying this but that GFX card aint gonna be too hot on BF2 etc. That would be something you would need to consider mate. But hey, Your getting a PC so it's all good :-) Without starting the age old argument but that is the simple reason why I won't be getting involved with PC gaming. Too much fuckin hassle. I prefer buy game, put in machine, play game to Buy game, install game, download 50 million patches, try and optomise settings, realise your GFX card doesn't cut it any more, give up! lol i agree, i use my 360 for all online gaming apart from mmo's. mothra, i agree with what your saying. i guess im just been greedy. i love the ddo game engine but im very competative and want pvp. oh well. carnt have everything i suppose. Oh and thankyou wolfy (i promise to announce it next time im takin a brake from live)
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Post by M0thra on Mar 16, 2006 9:45:39 GMT -5
Fair enough The only PvP I think could work is class based duels. That would be an interesting add on, especially if observers could place bets on the outcome. I have no objections to that, but full on PvP just wouldn't be fair. It also would make the semi-broken races (Dwarves, Halflings) even better then they are now for PvE. It's a testament to some players not wanting cookie-cutter PvP builds that everyone isn't a true Neutral (For stability armour) Dwarven (for inherent bonus spell saves, free useful exotic weapon feat) fighter (bonus feats, usual fighter gubbins.) (looks at his Dwarven Barbarian... Umm...)
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Post by Hicko on Mar 16, 2006 10:28:16 GMT -5
Celtic, It aint that much of hassle. Providing you know what your buying in the first place then it's all good.
Then you can upgrade every now and again to keep your machine at the top of the game.
Alex, I shall email you the downloader.
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Post by M0thra on Mar 16, 2006 10:39:07 GMT -5
Cheers dude - Not sure why my PC doesn't like EA, but there you go
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Post by GHOSTIE on Mar 16, 2006 12:36:56 GMT -5
I'll be playin some fps's online but not all the time. What with american football, Helen, design work, and committee work. I'll prolly be on a couple of nights at the most. I figured the X700 would be ok for thre rest of this year, and to be honest call of duty 2 and BF2 will play with that setup, which is all i need for quite a long time.
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